Thread:Mediawatcher/@comment-3581997-20150905032118/@comment-27729149-20150922152635

im still confused, you say that tragedy has to be life ending, so is lapis falll from tragic villain? all these so called tragic villains still have control over themselves, mr freeze and that guy from city of heroes still have contol over themselves, so they arent tragic in the slightest, they still had a choice and they chose to be bad, so im guessing that tragedy doesnt exist, carrie still had control over hherself, guts still has control over himself, so how are they tragic?