Thread:Mesektet/@comment-27729149-20150404030126/@comment-3581997-20150410070944

Angel did, though in that case it was due to absence then sudden reemergence of a soul, but the crime of his souless self still weighed upon him. Also see Zeus, raped two woman, one of them his future wife, killed a lot, including babies, though they were baby monsters, but in his case it was a matter of moderate vice indulgence versus saving the world a couple times and generally smiting the living piss out of evil on a daily basis. The Dovakiin is basically out on a Dragon genocide quest. To say nothing of Guts, who murders as most people would breath. Again referring to Ryou Bakura and Foreshadow, they were actully reincarnated to be redeemed for their crimes. Would you really say that Angel, Zeus, Guts and the Dovakiin don't count as heroes?

You may be looking for a hard and fast rule but I'm sorry to say there isn't one. The purpose of the series Angel was to explore this very question: "If you are genuinely sorry for the horrible things you have done, REALLY HORRIBLE, things, can you ever make up for them with enough time, effort and accomplishments?" I'm not saying you should just start allowing awful people who have fans on this wiki, goodness no. And just because people don't forgive someone doesn't mean they aren't doing heroic things. But keep in mind two things, 1. Just because some heroes go off the slippery-slope doesn't mean they were never heroes in the first place. 2. With magical MacGuffens and forces that can affect one's very soul, it is possible for even butchers and rapists to be redeemed, though rare.