Thread:Mesektet/@comment-3581997-20160615160106/@comment-3581997-20160724212923

First of all Allen Gregory didn't incur a hatedone for being dark, it uncured it's hatedom from being pretentious, for essentially only existing to talk down to everyone without having anything interesting to say. While Family Guy can get very Dark it's hatedom comes from two places, 1 It's creator wants to stop making episodes before it ends up like The Simpsons so over the past few years he has intentionally been making it unlikable in an effort to get Fox to cancel it, no luck so far 2. The characters became petty versions of themselves. The first part is an important distinction to make as Family Guy, unlike Allen Gregory or Batman V Superman is intentionally making itself unlikable in order to commit suicide.

Personally I do not like Code Geass, but that is entirely besides the point because Code Geass and Berserk manage to set out what they wish to accomplish with atmosphere because they could set their own story and characters, Batman V Superman did not.

Think about it. Even the title, "Batman V Superman" it is one giant advertisement, "Come watch two characters you love fight each-other, Oh the drama! Oh the bloodshed". But as such it is building it's story off two well established characters for that sort of kick, and there we have the biggest problem, the characters are already established, as such you need to be loyal to them to make your adaption work and well they weren't; Zack Snyder can frankly go jump off a cliff. But aside from things like Batman, F*cking BATMAN using guns, to kill people-batman-guns-kill-people, BAtMan-guNS-KilL-peOpLe! sorry my brain breaks a lttle when I even think that. Anyway even aside from that or Lex Luther killing Mercy or Superman chomping at the bits to fight some guy he just heard about. The movie ignores basic motivation simplly as a movie. Think of how little you would know about anyone, if Batman, Superman, Louis Lane and Lex Luther were not already established characters, the movie does not give any practical motivation for any of it's main cast, we don't know who they are, why the do the things they do and everything seems to be building up to a fight at the climax of the movie. A fight can not be a climax though if it has no reason for existing. Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent see each other, get the signal sent to their brains by Zack F*cing Synder that they hate each other before they even know who the other one is, That is meta-narrative at it's worst. That is the writer making the characters act in a certain way that has no logical backing, specifically cause they want to get past all that pesky character building and get right to the good violent pay-off bits. That is why it does not work.

Say what you will about Code Geasss angst and dominion fetishist undertones or Berserks excessive violence, they both have a character development and their shows build up on that for a climax to their existence. Batman V Superman did not bother for such development nor did it's creator even consider why the story should exist outside of marketing, the plot is just a means to an end to get to the climax so it has no reason for existing in-universe.

"IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT FOR A FILM TO HAVE A REASON TO F*CKING EXIST"

- Nostalgia Critic