Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-5959298-20180429112501/@comment-4708882-20180429130815

We've discussed this to death on the other site and I'm not wanting to do it here. I personally find Titanic to overall have no actual villain nor heroes as it's simply a disaster story nothing more. Hart is a good person but honestly doesn't from what you've shown and given me sound like he does enough.

Every adaptation you've shown including the mini-series has stewards helping the passengers with people like Turnbull also having some logic and Hart simply showing some compassion while disagreeing with the others. Rose at least has a villain with her seemingly going to greater lengths to save at least her lover which at least to me gives her more standing.

I'm not convinced anyone in the mini-series counts for either wiki and as stated earlier all these and more have already so it's clear we should simply agree to disagree. I haven't marked the page despite both being annoyed by its mere existence nor plan to at this time. If another user feels they don't then yes I'll take action but until then I don't plan to do a damn thing with it.