Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-27729149-20151008004041/@comment-4708882-20151229135214

On Hidan I have really don't know it might be because he doesn't have a sympathetic motive or positive feature but I didn't feel he did enough to truly count.

Orochimaru in the end gets revived and helps the heroes even having a character save Tsunade's life. This and when hearing of jiraiya dying he isn't happy but blank faced apparently. After the war he also becomes more passive on who he experimented on and had a son he sends to the village just so his son can learn. He is a weird case but someone said he redeemed himself and showed a new set of morals as he gives a speech on the ethics of cloning.

Madara definitely is someone I see as one but apparently he loved his brother and has a small amount of respect and a shred of honor as he compliments strong people's skill with genuine praise. There might be some other small migrating feature but that is what I was told disqualified him.