Thread:Mesektet/@comment-27729149-20150707052956/@comment-3581997-20150710182720

Indeed. However that is the cut-off-point, being the source of conflict as opposed to resolution of it. I've seen a lot of abuse of characters being assigned as "Villains" because they are jerks or just plain based on fan-hate, Princess Bubblegum for example, yes she is increasingly amoral but honestly what has she ever done, her page is noting but fans using throw away gags about how science makes you amoral. There actually used to be Deathstroke and Sephiroth pages on this wiki, pure fan dribble no indication of positive impact on the plot. Villains wiki is much cleaner than Heroes wiki and I give credit to them for that but they have let a lot of non-antagonists in based almost entirely on fan hate, which comes from moralizing them. I am not going to let that apply here.