Thread:Mesektet/@comment-27729149-20151002041329/@comment-3581997-20151009215038

No sorry. Complete Monster isn't just they went bad at one point it means they have psychologically changed from the rest of sentient thought to not include ANY morals, honor or standards of any king. For example how many villains are acting out of pride? Pride may be a vice but it means the villain is still holding themselves to a standard. Dr. Doom is a villain, no two ways about it, but there are certain things he simply will not do, thus he is not a Complete Monster, The Joker though, well yeah he is, no action is beneath him. Both have tragic pasts and eventually descended into villainy but Joker's decent was so deep that his ability to hold standards was completely destroyed. That is where the Complete Monster kicks in from just a normal villain and why it is a point of no return, once you get there you can't just regrow a conscience.