Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-5959298-20180904114032/@comment-5959298-20180904141116

I'm just giving you all pieces together. I don't see why someone can't be both Hero and Villain. People in real-life are not either Heroes or Villains, most have some light and dark side.

If one can say that he is a villain then he have to admit that he is also hero. Because of Turnbull many people died who could be saved. You state that he is not a villain while he see that it is best if italians will drown. If wish someone to die isn't villainous then he isn't a villain, but Cooper is generally better person. Just because we see Turnbull only in disaster doesn't excuse his personality.

Remember he said locking italians was best way and then he asked Paolo if he is anxious to join them. If villain necessary have to hurt someone, then Turnbull isn't villain. But many can see Turnbull as villain with having racist view on them like this.

If someone doesn't like people because of skin color but doesn't wish them to die if They aren't threat, then he is not a villain. But Turnbull clearly was worse. Just because he wouldn't kill them, that doesn't mean he is not a villain. You don't have to be criminal to be a villain.

I understand he doesn't do enough to be on Villains Wikia but he is evil.