Thread:Garfield1601/@comment-15895329-20131231013601/@comment-15895329-20131231023936

Except it was not "some people" it was a staggering majority. Regarding True Neutral, again, Mike may do heroic things, but that's why he's on this wiki at all. But a True Neutral character can also do heroic things. But if these moments are the exception and not the rule (as they are with Mike) then it does not denote Neutral Good. And I never said Mike's flaws made him evil, they just prevent him from being of Good alignment. He is of neutral alignment.

He is never violent, but I said selish hero, not violent hero. Mike is selfish at times, as shown by his desire to prove himself and also to "break the scare record" and in the case of the latter he initially cared more about that then he did about Boo. That sounds fairly selfish to me.

Finally, the "may be deleted" I feel is a poor justification. If the category gets deleted, then yeah, the category should be removed from the page. But until then I see no reason why it should not stay. And frankly there is no reason to get rid of Self-Hating Heroes, as it is a recurring heroic theme to have a hero who initially does not think well of themselves, the opposite of a villainous egomaniac/god wannabe. So I fail to see what's so bad about that category.