Thread:Emeraldblade95/@comment-36574594-20190927190349

Hi there. So I noticed that this is a problem on both Heroes and Villains wiki. One of the biggest issues is the abuse of the Mature template. The guidelines are "What a person thinks is personally mature enough." However, given that different genres have different levels of maturity, say for example, a kids film depicting murder as incredibly mature, while a horror film depicts a serial killer incredibly violently, I have noticed a lot of people who get hit with the Mature template, especially people who really only get hit with it because they happen to have a type of rating, especially the R rating. I therefore ask that you create a blog similar to the Pure Good item where you say that users can propose heroes who are potentially mature, (I will be making a similar request on Villains Wiki later, but likely tomorrow). In order to avoid abuse, I am proposing that there are very clear guidelines on what can be proposed as Mature content.


 * Ratings: What a content is rated does not matter. Several pages have been hit with the Mature template simply because the film they have is rated R or M for the video game area. This is clearly an egregious abuse of the category as the content that got that might not have anything to do with the character.


 * Genres: Certain genres or types of media will never be allowed to have a Mature candidate hit with the Mature template. Children shows and films for example, even if they have heroes who go through a lot of horror, are by default aimed at children and therefore lack the maturity requirements. Similarly, not every single person who appears in a horror film or slasher film, for example requires the M rating, as they may not be subject to the content.


 * Swearing: All too often, people seem to give heroes the Mature template just because the character swears a lot, especially in regards to the F bomb. I do not believe a hero should be the Mature template just because they swear a lot, because all too often, heroes have that template just because they swear.


 * Debatable range: In rating areas like PG 13 or Teen for video games, all too often, heroes get hit with the Mature template despite the fact that while those templates guarantee there is some mature content, it is still safe for children who are much more older and more accepting of the world. For example, a hero in a PG 13, or even a PG film, might get hit with an Mature template just because there is a small cut that shows some blood, or because they are flirting with their love interest. It should be emphasised that while it is acceptable to propose people from these types of middle rating media, the actual justification has to go beyond what one would normally expect to see in a rated media piece with a rating like that.


 * Blood: Much like the above, if even a small cut is seen on a hero in an R rated film, a PG 13 or a PG film, the hero automatically gets hit with the Mature template. This is especially egregious in R rated films and in other genres with similar ratings. A single cut or drop of blood is not enough to justify the Mature template.


 * Sex: Much like blood, in middle of the road rated media, if a character flirts with their love interest or just share a kiss, they get hit with the Mature rating. In some of these middle of the road media, sex is clearly implied, or indicated to have occurred offscreen, but the audience did not see it. Nevertheless, some heroes get hit with the Mature template for precisely the reasons above, even though it is not confirmed or it clearly happened offscreen.


 * Animals, Aliens, and Robots: Essentially, this rule applies to anything that is not human. Several writers have admitted that they make the killings much more violent, even in media centered on kids, if the target is not a human. An excellent example of this is an episode in Superman the Animated Series where Braniac kills a bunch of aliens and you see their blood splattered across the wall in front of the camera. The same rule applies in regards to sexual material. If an animal, robot or alien has a romantic interaction, it is likely to be more suggestive than a human romantic interaction, primarily because the rating agencies never up the ratings for nonhuman sex unless it really gets out of hand. An example of that would be Can You Feel The Love Tonight, where it is made not so subtly clear at the end that Nala is nonverbally asking Simba to have sex with her despite the film still being G rated and yes, Simba and Nala's pages have repeatedly had the Mature category applied to them and I had to remove them in the last few days. There are also several times where animals that are depicted as hunting and eating normally get hit with the Mature template Long story short, while it is okay for users to propose animals, aliens and robots, they need to explain how they go into mature territory, especially given that anything violent or sexual is likely going to be portrayed as normal.

I apologize for the length of this post, but these are just some of the major issues with the Mature category and I really think that this needs to be solved. Thank you 