Thread:Motivatedzombie256/@comment-36740624-20181224153845/@comment-36740624-20181227014056

Putting Saitama aside, i've noted there's plenty characters who are described as "unskilled" just because they have no formal training. Ichigo being an example, his shinigami powers are natural and he has no training with them, along with not being an experienced shinigami. Still dude is trained in martial arts and is an expert swordman, and he hone his power as the series goes on by pure experience.

Actually, i think we should discuss this on the TV tropes "reliable" source instead of here, since we are very out of theme of this thread.

Let me know if you want to talk about this on that thread, not this.