Thread:Mesektet/@comment-27729149-20160128170019/@comment-3581997-20160211041852

I would consider both to be sub-complete monster. Hojo is a sociopath but end of the day his cruelty is a very small corner of the world. He is irredeemable because he wont try to be redeemed, not because he never could. Griffith's deeds are really all just petty ambitions, the notion of actually hurting others seems incidental at best.