Thread:Mesektet/@comment-27729149-20151002041329/@comment-27729149-20151105144946

If you look up their character in tv tropes it literally points out something, here's the link for Ramsay:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/GameOfThronesHouseBolton

And here's the link for Joffrey:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/GameOfThronesHouseBaratheonOfKingsLanding