Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-28302658-20160829181526/@comment-4708882-20160904030938

Well if truly brainwashed I assume they still count though the Lich still exists just imprisoned with in the mind of the giant infant which has its own mind/soulif you will, that the Lich wants to take the body to continue his mad goal of ending all life. Arguably Brainiac from Smallville however doesn't as if I recall right his data got corrupted by Zod a long time ago to do what he does and when he comes back from the future he had full memory and betters himself after being reprogrammed again. This would essentially mean he was brainwashed to be evil (CM worthy type crimes) then returned to his original programming for good. Carnage from Marvel however was essentially brainwashed to be good despite mostly being written as a CM before, he then gets free of said effects and goes right back allowing him to overall (dependent on writer as he in some issues cares for Shriek but others he doesn't care) count. So in general they still count unless something implies they were brainwashed, possessed or somethings similar that made it to where it wasn't their free will causing them to commit the necessary crimes.